yeah, they're cometic mls gaskets.. No sealer because they said not to (but that doesn't mean anything). All the surfaces were quite smooth, I think they require a 50RA or something along those lines. I think I got the water thing sorted. My Oil pan is a Kevko pan with baffles, it never completely drains and didn't realize when I jacked up the front of the car with the intake off it dumped water back into the pan. We'll see hopefully it's not more severe than just my error (at least I caught the milky oil in the garage before I went out and thrashed on it).