The bottom line here for me is, I will buy the cheap headers next time as long as they are coated and have some sort of track record with end user's. After this nightmare with Doug's I can't see beating up 600.00 street headers.I just have a hard time thinking my car is some how this fare out of spec. I have done everything I can think of to fix this mess and have made a little head way but these things are going to hit the T/bars and that's it.I have raised the motor 1/2", New trans mount, shimmed it 3/8" up,there just to wide. Some say It can't be the TFS heads that are a little wider, I am at the point I just don't care. I don't drive my car's enough that a cheaper header would be fine in my case. A few year's ago I bought a pair of OGX long tubes for one of my Fox body Mustangs with GT40P heads and just a small dimple where the steering shaft comes down they fit really nice and are Polhised stainless steel for about 200.00. I think they had something for the A body if I remember right. I know I will get a hard time about OBX but that's ok.