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What do you wear, size 4? My wife is 4’10” tall a size 5 foot and has a nearly impossible time finding shoes that fit.
Dang, she has tiny feet. I am size 5 but I usually go one up and order 6. I would rather a rigid shoe like a high heel run loose than tight, feet swell slightly after 8 hours and usually there are 6 more hours to be on my feet on the average 12 to 14 hour day.