Another thing, I just couldn't challenge Jpeg to another internet race. He quit the last one in a week, grumbling his way out the door calling names. :rolleyes: But if you like food for thought, had he stayed in it, I bet I'd already have an 11 second car :D As it stands, I won that 2019 race with a 13.3 car. But that is all on another thread for all to see and read, if they have the time LOL :D