In that price range I wasn't shooting for quality.. again if they're telling the truth and it is t304 stainless steel as I looked it up it's pretty common stuff.. also like I just said my car is sunny day heated garage kind of deal so they're not going to see all kinds of weather.. as a matter of fact the cheap Summit headers with the factory primer or whatever lasted three or four years before I wrap them and they still didn't have any rust on them without any paint..