You know I thought that myself but that must be a full hubcap thing?? when I got home I thought I didn't even say anything and they didn't say anything at PIR as well.. that's probably like a full hubcap or something.. I have a cool silver stripe painted underneath the cap so you can see the wheel going around... I was surprised that they fit over my long studs on the rear.. I'm sure you don't know the feeling but it's more fun to be ahead and win...:thumbsup:.. his car went onto the trailer...