Certainly don't nead anything like that the first year. Takes about 3 years for 'mature' plants producing fully. But you need to train them up on something. I had 14 plants climbing strings to one post at about 8 ft. The plan was to put up 4 taller posts this year, but I just don't see myself harvesting,drying etc. I think Hoppy has 20ft 4x4s burried about 4ft in the ground. I still have half the plants and will probably run them up one side. Does make a cool ornamental...
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