Trick Flow small block heads
you just answered my question. will the Trick Flow make W2 power.....NOPE.
has anyone made 600 HP with TF? NOPE. one member here has had them on the dyno and made what 5 hp more then EQ heads?
don't give me the bullcrap about cam was this or that, compression was not perfect, intake was not ideal, all excuses in my book for a head that was supposed to change the world without any PROOF. everyone jumped on the TF bandwagon, and i really do hope that they do well as that is another huge plus for us small block guys.
a few years ago, a huge name in the small block world released a head that did not meet the hype that was claimed. everyone was on that bandwagon as well until the dyno sheet spit out the #'s. i wanted a set of those heads too, as i was in the process of building my 360''. after seeing the results of the ''best head for SBM'', i went back to the old faithful 1977 iron heads.
WTF?? Not to offend you, but evidently you know nothing about cylinder heads or making horsepower.
I you can say your junk iron **** will make as much or more power than a TF and walk a straight line, I’ll eat YOUR hat. You can’t possibly be that silly. I mean, really?
Because some bubble gummer went out and built an engine that wouldn’t be a build I’d do for a production head and you think the heads don’t work? I’ve seen W2 engines not make power. Many times. Is that the heads fault?
I know of a Ritter block Victor head deal not make crap for power. Are the block and heads junk? And I personally know that engine builder, and he is a hell of a machinist and a top notch engine builder. He didn’t wake up stupid and build junk. Some where he made a mistake. Possibly not flowing the heads, improving them and using a better valve job would be where I’d look first. Second I’d look at the cam timing. Probably wouldn’t be something I’d use. Still doesn’t make the heads or block junk.
Get my point? You have never even SEEN these heads yet you claim your iron junk is just as good. That’s retarded.
Like I said, lead69 built a TF engine very, very close to what I’d do. With the exception of a skosh more cam and 1.6 rockers, it’s exactly how I’d do it. If I have to pay for his dyno time, I may just do it.
Rediculous conversation really. To claim an iron OE head is something special is silly. And if you are trying to palm off the W2 as your “1977” iron is two totally different discussions. One is based on passenger car architecture and the other uses an offset rocker, which is a big deal. That’s setting up a straw man argument, because TF has NEVER claimed that head was to compete with the W2 stuff, because they KNOW, just like I KNOW, 98% of Chrysler guys will never buy a head with offset rockers. Ever. An already small market is now reduced to nothing.
If you want to have an adult conversation about heads, we can do that. But you have to have ground rules first.