badvaliant
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The difference is pretty good. I'd definitely recommend them. They are also way easier to put on. Here is a comparison on my '71 Valiant:
Need New Headers for my ride.
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He may not want to admit it, but badvaliant is my oldest son, finally on the site.
Although the instructions say to, we did NOT have to take anything loose on the suspension. We lifted one side of the motor at a time to tilt it, and turned the steering wheel all the way toward whatever side we were working on and they slid right up in. We cut the old drivers side cheap headers off with a sawsall.
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I have a customer rebuilding his 51 Chevy into a bagged lowrider and the object of his car is to be able to crush a soda can LOL welcome to the forum even though you're the son of Sam LOL
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moparmat2000
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Hedman block huggers
The blockhuggers won't fit. The shorties I linked to are supposed to. There's a difference.
moparmat2000
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Why won't they fit? Txstang84 has some hedman block huggers on his scamp. I personally saw them.
They are probably the shorties. The block huggers dump the exhaust straight into the steering box. I have personally seen THAT. The passenger's side falls in, even though the motor mount is in the way of any type of down pipe. The driver's side won't even bolt up.
SS Exhaust Headers Manifold for Chrysler LA Small Block Hugger Mopar 318/340/360 | eBay
Just cut my old headers off to install these . Nice looking , look well made.
TO BAD THEY DON'T FIT THE DRIVERS SIDE.
So don't buy these.
Just cut my old headers off to install these . Nice looking , look well made.
TO BAD THEY DON'T FIT THE DRIVERS SIDE.
So don't buy these.
SS Exhaust Headers Manifold for Chrysler LA Small Block Hugger Mopar 318/340/360 | eBay
Just cut my old headers off to install these . Nice looking , look well made.
TO BAD THEY DON'T FIT THE DRIVERS SIDE.
So don't buy these.
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Look at um. How can they fit?
Well, you know , they fit the head great, and almost clear the steering box. With some persuasion , I might be able to get them to clear. But if not then they wont take em back all beat to fuk.
Funny how all the headers have mixed reviews.
Well, you know , they fit the head great, and almost clear the steering box. With some persuasion , I might be able to get them to clear. But if not then they wont take em back all beat to fuk.
LOL Those headman shorties I linked to are supposedly made for the later A body, although I've never seen anyone report that they fit. As badly as we need a good affordable header, you'd figure there'd be feedback on um.
11 Customer Reviews for Hedman Hedders 78500 - Hedman Tight Tubes Street Rod Headers
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Half of it works
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I ordered this to go on my 1972 Plymouth satellite 318 5.2L. With the oil relocation kit I installed, this product I thought would be perfect. Turns out that only one of the manifolds fit which was the one that all the pipes went straight down (not the one with the pipe that crosses over). For some reason that one wouldn't fit. The bottom end ...read more
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Reviewer: LEVI from NE
Date: April 04, 2016
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Hedman Tight Tubes SB Mopar
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Excellent fit on a '77 Aspen (F-Body) R/T w/ power steering. You have to use a mini-starter. Just ordered another set for an '80 Mirada.
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Reviewer: PAUL from WA
Date: February 28, 2015
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Great headers from Hedman, I tried a pair of larger headers from Summits main competitor, those headers were not even close to fitting. These Hedman Headers from Summit fit perfectly and installed fairly easily.
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Reviewer: SCOTT from NM
Date: October 28, 2014
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went on easy enough towed to the exhaust shop and was told there is no way he could hook exhaust to these headers due to interference with idler arm and torsion bar on passenger side starter on the driver side even with the mini starter I bought from summit description said they would fit on Plymouth duster they would not sent them back to ...read more
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Reviewer: TOM from CA
Date: May 20, 2020
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A definite must have.
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Went on excellent. Now I am using truck mounts. The rubber is thicker and sit a little higher than the ones for a 73 dart 340. I have a 360. It does have the car stands, but I tried a different set of headers before I got these. That is why I put the truck mounts on. I believe that these would still work with the car mounts. I was just too la ...read more
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Reviewer: DANIEL from AR
Date: April 22, 2020
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Great fit on my 67 dodge dart with power steering!
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Reviewer: CHRISTOPHE from NV
Date: December 16, 2019
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Very DisAppointed! Does not Fit Edelbrock Heads!
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The left side header hits the bottom edge of the cylinder head. You would have to either space the header away from the block @ 1/2" or cut the bottom boss of the head to make clearance. Either way not good.
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Reviewer: MICHAEL from NJ
Date: August 10, 2019
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Great product, seem better built then as discribed.
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Reviewer: ADAM from FL
Date: March 08, 2018
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Nice quality for the price,
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Nice quality....maybe jet coating would look nicer...the finish will fade as all tube headers seem to. But they sound and flow quite nice! They fit and finish is very good. if your using them on a Magnum block you may need to grind a bit on the block for a tight fit...other then that have 15k on mine and only tightened the bolts on the flang ...read more
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Reviewer: PATRICK from TN
Date: January 08, 2018
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They Fit!
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3rd set of headers I have tried on my Mopar 360 engine swap into a 66 Rambler American. These are the only headers that clear the steering shaft. These are different than other block huggers because the pipes don't overlap, so they are less than 3 inches from mounting point on the heads. Actually the drivers side header tube sticks out less ...read more
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Reviewer: TODD from OH
Date: June 29, 2017
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Half of it works
HED-78500
I ordered this to go on my 1972 Plymouth satellite 318 5.2L. With the oil relocation kit I installed, this product I thought would be perfect. Turns out that only one of the manifolds fit which was the one that all the pipes went straight down (not the one with the pipe that crosses over). For some reason that one wouldn't fit. The bottom end ...read more
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Reviewer: LEVI from NE
Date: April 04, 2016
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Hedman Tight Tubes SB Mopar
HED-78500
Excellent fit on a '77 Aspen (F-Body) R/T w/ power steering. You have to use a mini-starter. Just ordered another set for an '80 Mirada.
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Reviewer: PAUL from WA
Date: February 28, 2015
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Tight tubes review
HED-78500
Great headers from Hedman, I tried a pair of larger headers from Summits main competitor, those headers were not even close to fitting. These Hedman Headers from Summit fit perfectly and installed fairly easily.
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Reviewer: SCOTT from NM
Date: October 28, 2014
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hedman tight tubes headers
HED-78500
went on easy enough towed to the exhaust shop and was told there is no way he could hook exhaust to these headers due to interference with idler arm and torsion bar on passenger side starter on the driver side even with the mini starter I bought from summit description said they would fit on Plymouth duster they would not sent them back to ...read more
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Reviewer: TOM from CA
Date: May 20, 2020
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A definite must have.
HED-78500
Went on excellent. Now I am using truck mounts. The rubber is thicker and sit a little higher than the ones for a 73 dart 340. I have a 360. It does have the car stands, but I tried a different set of headers before I got these. That is why I put the truck mounts on. I believe that these would still work with the car mounts. I was just too la ...read more
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Reviewer: DANIEL from AR
Date: April 22, 2020
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Great fit on my 67 dodge dart with power steering!
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Reviewer: CHRISTOPHE from NV
Date: December 16, 2019
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Very DisAppointed! Does not Fit Edelbrock Heads!
HED-78500
The left side header hits the bottom edge of the cylinder head. You would have to either space the header away from the block @ 1/2" or cut the bottom boss of the head to make clearance. Either way not good.
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Reviewer: MICHAEL from NJ
Date: August 10, 2019
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Great product, seem better built then as discribed.
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Reviewer: ADAM from FL
Date: March 08, 2018
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Nice quality for the price,
HED-78500
Nice quality....maybe jet coating would look nicer...the finish will fade as all tube headers seem to. But they sound and flow quite nice! They fit and finish is very good. if your using them on a Magnum block you may need to grind a bit on the block for a tight fit...other then that have 15k on mine and only tightened the bolts on the flang ...read more
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Reviewer: PATRICK from TN
Date: January 08, 2018
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HED-78500
3rd set of headers I have tried on my Mopar 360 engine swap into a 66 Rambler American. These are the only headers that clear the steering shaft. These are different than other block huggers because the pipes don't overlap, so they are less than 3 inches from mounting point on the heads. Actually the drivers side header tube sticks out less ...read more
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moparmat2000
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Pic of hedman 78500 . The one on the left side of the pic goes on the left side of the engine. I have em mocked up on my 67 with a 318 mockup long block. They fit just fine
What about hooking up the exhaust pipe ? All clear ?
Those are the ones I linked to and am talking about. The blockhuggers are different and don't fit.
moparmat2000
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I believe Txstang84 got creative snaking the pipe up to them. I had pix of the underside of his scamp with these installed, but lost them. RH side was pretty straight forward, but the left side needed a bit of creativity. I was planning on using these with my 408, but may still try to find some 68-71 340 exhaust manifolds even if it chokes it off a little.
yellow rose
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That’s the problem. A good AND affordable header is impossible to do (near impossible).
For a mild street car those Dougs are the easiest a body headers I have ever installed. I just removed them to pull Brian's engine and again, NO NEED to unbolt any suspension parts. Turning the steering wheel all the way gets the drag link out of the way enough. This is on a manual steering car.
And as you see from his pictures above, in post #26 a substantial increase in ground clearance.
And as you see from his pictures above, in post #26 a substantial increase in ground clearance.
Houseoffubar
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I saw some Chinese stainless shorties on OfferUp last week, brand new, but being re-sold from eBay for $100.
I am not saying they were bolt on ready, but the tubes were quite beautifully bent all one piece, no welds but the beginning and end.
I am sure the flanges would need a but of flattening and maybe go over some of the welds, but they were really nice and obviously great ground clearance.
I am not saying they were bolt on ready, but the tubes were quite beautifully bent all one piece, no welds but the beginning and end.
I am sure the flanges would need a but of flattening and maybe go over some of the welds, but they were really nice and obviously great ground clearance.
Do you have a part number for those headers ?
What was the price?
badvaliant
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The number on these is D453
I got them for $382 and some change (that's the total with tax and shipping) on eBay
Ok sent the SS huggers back Got some of the Headman shorties in. I could not find any Doug's for under $500 so that's not happening.
The left side hits the big flat pad on the base of my head. Had to grind it down. Its gonna take a bunch of small miracles to get some pipe hooked up to either side and gain any ground clearance..
The left side hits the big flat pad on the base of my head. Had to grind it down. Its gonna take a bunch of small miracles to get some pipe hooked up to either side and gain any ground clearance..
Rant time. The Headnans are painted black with cheap *** paint, instructions say to sand / blast remove the paint not high temp.
WTF for $2 they could use header paint.
WTF for $2 they could use header paint.
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