BEWARE OF ESPO SPRINGS

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RustyRatRod said:
I'll tell you this much.....and now I'm not being an ***, just tellin you like it is. Comin on a forum and talkin trash about a respected company and their rep ain't a good way to tell your story. I've never purchased from them, but I have talked to Laura about springs before and I can tell you she's very knowledgeable. A lot of people here have done business with them and are very happy customers. You know the old saying "You can attract more bees with honey than you can with vinegar" and it's true. It always pays to be nice. Always.

Lastly, yours is only one side of the story. And no, I'm not saying you're not tellin the truth. The thing with Laura is she connot wrap her head around the idea that theres something wrong with these springs and if telling you how i have been dealt wit
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67/6barracuda said:
I order +1” 6 leaf for my barracuda and very happy with the results. Laura was very nice and knowledgeable when dealing with her over the phone and email. People do make mistakes. I would take photos of your car at all angles step back a bit and look to see if the car has any rake to it. It should with the plus 2” mine does with the +1”. Also, what front shackles are you using and leaf perches?
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Laura and i have exchanged over 15 e mails with several pics , If my car has any rake its to the back being lower then the front , ( fyi torsion bars are set to chrysler shop manual spec and adjusting method with tires on swivel plate )
 
Is the shackle length correct? Do you have front hangers with two different positions you could bolt the spring eye?
 
dano said:
Is the shackle length correct? Do you have front hangers with two different positions you could bolt the spring eye?
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the shackles are oem mopar shackles bought from mancini racing , the front hangers have one hole , but i am familiar with the spring hanger your referring to , That hanger could be a possible partial solution
 
The photo you posted looks way higher than factory to me. Typically "the average A body" has the rear hub above the rocker line

Like this

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mopar jimmie said:
the shackles are oem mopar shackles bought from mancini racing , the front hangers have one hole , but i am familiar with the spring hanger your referring to , That hanger could be a possible partial solution
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Did you put them on new with the ESPO springs?
 
I've bought a couple set's over the years. One for A body and E. Never a problem. I think I would have purchased everything from them. Ie..
Shackles and Hangers. JMO
 
The shackles are identical to the ones that came off , the hangers are stock , the issue is not in the connecting parts , the pic in the earlier post of the barracuda shows that there springs greatly can vary . I guess i just got the short straw
 
If your not happy. I would say they need to make it right. It doesn’t appear to have the +2” I think they sent standard springs. My plus +1” had me way high up I actually lowered it back down an 1” with the front shackle. Dr. Diff front shackles has the two hole’s to make the adjustment, I still have plenty of rake.
 
67/6barracuda said:
If your not happy. I would say they need to make it right. It doesn’t appear to have the +2” I think they sent standard springs. My plus +1” had me way high up I actually lowered it back down an 1” with the front shackle. Dr. Diff front shackles has the two hole’s to make the adjustment, I still have plenty of rake.
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Laura feels theres nothing wrong so if i want the springs rearched then i need to pay for them to do what i already payed for.
 
-3 would put the rim above the wheel opening on a dart.

Stock level caltrac springs on a 70. With no weight (fuel/Battery) in the back end IIRC. With weight in the trunk, wheelwell lip is about even with a 15" rim lip.
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Just a pic of what I have compared to yours...

The cuda is going to look exaggerated because the well arch is round, not squared off. The bad thing is if you had it sitting about the same level and it was high already, then you didn't get any additional height with the new spring. Might have needed +4. These cars are ALL over the place with measurements too.
 
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I'm missing something here? Are we talking about the Dart in post #12?
If we are, that dart is at least 2" too high in the rear.
Lower it and your shackle angle will be correct!
 
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What does the driver side look like height wise?
 
ir3333 said:
I'm missing something here? Are we talking about the Dart in post #12?
If we are, that dart is at least 2" too high in the rear.
Lower it and your shackle angle will be correct!
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I think the part you missed is the car is sitting to low already
 
Without a picture of the WHOLE CAR it's hard to judge just where it's sitting.
 
why don't you post a picture of the partnumber that is on those springs
then compare it to the paperwork that states you ordered +2s
 
diymirage said:
why don't you post a picture of the partnumber that is on those springs
then compare it to the paperwork that states you ordered +2s
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No need to Laura has absolutely assured me I have the the springs I ordered , trust me we have been through this whole thing with the details, laura and I have exchanged more then a dozen e mails with pics and measurements
 
New springs will settle to a lower point. My new ones did. Rearching those springs is not an option in your case that will shorten the eye to eye measurements and really mess up the rear shackle angle.
 
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