413 Wedge

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Loggato said:
Me and a buddy just rescued 2 '65 300's with 413's. one for me, one for him. He also picked up a 426 long block with the deal. My buddy (mid 60's with a thick skull) swears up and down that the 413's are all "street wedges" and that they are valuable.. I told him that they have wedge shaped combustion chambers, but they are not "wedge" engines and should not be considered valuable. I have no idea where the "street wedge" name even comes from as I've found no information on that terminology.
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They are wedge engines but not max wedge.
 
Loggato said:
Me and a buddy just rescued 2 '65 300's with 413's. one for me, one for him. He also picked up a 426 long block with the deal. My buddy (mid 60's with a thick skull) swears up and down that the 413's are all "street wedges" and that they are valuable.. I told him that they have wedge shaped combustion chambers, but they are not "wedge" engines and should not be considered valuable. I have no idea where the "street wedge" name even comes from as I've found no information on that terminology.
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The Street wedges were 1965 426 RB engines with 10.3/1 compression, a hydraulic cam and a single 4 barrel. The Max Wedges were 12.5/1 engines solid lifter cam, and dual 4's as well as the special cast header type exhaust manifolds. The 413's came out in 62 and in a single 4 barrel as well as a Maxie dual quad version. If any of these 413's or 426's were a single 4 barrel They weren't "Max Wedges" I see some of the 300's had dual quads and dual point distributors. . Do your homework!
 
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toolmanmike said:
The Street wedges were 1965 426 RB engines with 10.3/1 compression, a hydraulic cam and a single 4 barrel. The Max Wedges were 12.5/1 engines solid lifter cam, and dual 4's as well as the special cast header type exhaust manifolds. The 413's came out in 62 and in a single 4 barrel as well as a Maxie dual quad version. If any of these 413's or 426's were a single 4 barrel They weren't "Max Wedges" I see some of the 300's had dual quads and dual point distributors. Apparently you could get a Maxie in a 300. Do your homework!
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"Max" wedge was short for "maximum performance" wedge. Chrysler 300 letter cars all had multiple carbs until 64 or so, either in line or long ram, but most had fairly mild cams (268/.430 hydraulics). However, there were a very few 400-405 hp versions 60-62, and 390 hp versions 63-64 that had short long rams and hotter solid lifter cams. Hot Rod Magazine actually ran a 405 hp version at the 62 Winternationals, finishing runner up to a 421 Pontiac in Super Stock Automatic class (this was before the max wedge 413 Dodges and Plymouths were introduced). None of these Chrysler 300 motors, though, were "max" wedges, or had the max wedge 2.08/1.88 heads or the max wedge over 300 duration, over .500 lift cams, or the max wedge short ram intakes.
 
toolmanmike said:
The Street wedges were 1965 426 RB engines with 10.3/1 compression, a hydraulic cam and a single 4 barrel. The Max Wedges were 12.5/1 engines solid lifter cam, and dual 4's as well as the special cast header type exhaust manifolds. The 413's came out in 62 and in a single 4 barrel as well as a Maxie dual quad version. If any of these 413's or 426's were a single 4 barrel They weren't "Max Wedges" I see some of the 300's had dual quads and dual point distributors. . Do your homework!
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1964 was the first year for the 426 Street Wedge.
 
mcodecuda said:
1964 was the first year for the 426 Street Wedge.
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And it was called street wedge to differentiate it from the max wedge.

Interesting that Dodges and Plymouths got the street version of the 426 big block wedge in 64 and 65, while Chrysler stayed with the 413 through 65, then got a 440 in 66 - a year that the largest wedge available in B body Dodges and Plymouths was a 383 (with 426 hemi optional).
 
The 65 Plymouth Fury and Dodge Monaco were available with the 426 Street Wedge so it’s odd that Chrysler didn’t offer it in place of the 413. I was told that the 65 426 Street Wedge that I have came out of a Dodge Monaco.

BTW, I’m still looking for a 64 Street Wedge block for my car.
 
mcodecuda said:
The 65 Plymouth Fury and Dodge Monaco were available with the 426 Street Wedge so it’s odd that Chrysler didn’t offer it in place of the 413. I was told that the 65 426 Street Wedge that I have came out of a Dodge Monaco.

BTW, I’m still looking for a 64 Street Wedge block for my car.
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Yeah, some of Chrysler Corporation's marketing decisions are hard to figure.

Edit: Another BTW: the 413 in my 59 Dodge (post #16 above) came from a 64 Chrysler.
 
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mcodecuda said:
The 65 Plymouth Fury and Dodge Monaco were available with the 426 Street Wedge so it’s odd that Chrysler didn’t offer it in place of the 413. I was told that the 65 426 Street Wedge that I have came out of a Dodge Monaco.

BTW, I’m still looking for a 64 Street Wedge block for my car.
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I have a 426 Street Wedge that me and my buddy picked up with our recent car purchase, it's very rough but I believe he'd be willing to sell it. I mean it's VERY rough.
 
Loggato said:
I have a 426 Street Wedge that me and my buddy picked up with our recent car purchase, it's very rough but I believe he'd be willing to sell it. I mean it's VERY rough.
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Thanks but I’m looking for something a little closer to home.
 
Loggato said:
I have a 426 Street Wedge that me and my buddy picked up with our recent car purchase, it's very rough but I believe he'd be willing to sell it. I mean it's VERY rough.
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Nice of you to offer but this isn't a wanted thread. Thanks
 
I’m fairly certain the 61 and earlier are the ones with the 8 bolt non threaded crank flange. They were attached to “power drive or flight” trans and the torque converter had studs on it. The flange sticks out noticeably from the block to allow access for the nuts to go on. 62 and later have the good crank.
 
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