Offenhauser 5041 review

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HotRod777

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The short version is:
If you want to draw a huge crowd at a cruise (well, huge for a /6 car at least) put one of these on.

Grabbed this up off eBay earlier in the summer. This one was NOS from 1961 or 1962... the linkage package was still sealed and the very delicate old and browned paper instruction sheet was titled “61-62 Valiant/ Phoenix 170-225cid”.
I had a spare 1920 and air cleaner from a prior car, I checked to make sure both had a the same jet, they did, a 56.
The install is straight forward, I left the exhaust manifold on and just used a thin coat of copper rtv on the intake flanges and the original exhaust manifold heat stove gasket. The tricky part is the linkage. The tricky part is getting the right return spring tension(s) and the right ‘ratio’ off the eccentrics. The first hurdle is the oddity of the 1920 that is spring loaded to default to wide-open, not to idle. I ran 2 springs right from each carb to the linkage pivot shaft so with nothing else hooked up the carbs would return to idle. I then also ran a spring in the stock location right near the firewall.
(Quick note, it’s a 4 speed so no throttle pressure to worry about). The next hurdle was the linkage ratio. When hooded up as instructed the throttle was too quick, the pedal only traveled about 1” from idle to wide open. After experimenting with different alignments of the eccentrics (more & less over-center) I ended up drilling 1 linkage hole much lower on the first arm that pins to the throttle shaft that comes through the firewall. This made the peddle need to travel much further up and down to cycle the carbs from idle to wide-open. I finally got it stock-feeling with about 2.5” of travel at the pedal. Along with doing the intake I also curved the distributor and put on a 2.25” head pipe. (On the distributor I took off the heavy spring and welded the slots, (15int/ 32total) (the pipe was from Accurate and I used an UltraFlo W/dump).
The car runs much stronger... it’s still no where near fast but it’s a noticeable improvement. (The car also has 3.55’s) There is really no cons to the drive ability other then it has a bad off-idle stumble when it’s totally cold. It goes away as soon as the temp gauge starts to move (I do have the heat flapper tied to block off the intake, so I know that isn’t helping but I’d rather keep the intake cooler once hot (if that makes sense)).

As I mentioned in the beginning people start calling their friends over at cruises with the “you gotta see this” wave.
All and all I’m happy with the $300 of love I gave the slant... it’s a shame so many people assume they are a throw-aways.

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I can hear it now. "My uncle had that same factory experimental limited edition dual carburetor setup back in the day. It'd do 160." LOL

Looks good man. I like how you did the air cleaners.
 
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Oh and IMHO, it would run much better both cold and hot with the exhaust valve operating properly. I just went through this with mine. Believe me, I'm tellin you straight up. Mine runs way better with a good smooth operating valve. ....and I tried it with one shut off to the under side of the carburetor.
 
The short version is:
If you want to draw a huge crowd at a cruise (well, huge for a /6 car at least) put one of these on.

Grabbed this up off eBay earlier in the summer. This one was NOS from 1961 or 1962... the linkage package was still sealed and the very delicate old and browned paper instruction sheet was titled “61-62 Valiant/ Phoenix 170-225cid”.
I had a spare 1920 and air cleaner from a prior car, I checked to make sure both had a the same jet, they did, a 56.
The install is straight forward, I left the exhaust manifold on and just used a thin coat of copper rtv on the intake flanges and the original exhaust manifold heat stove gasket. The tricky part is the linkage. The tricky part is getting the right return spring tension(s) and the right ‘ratio’ off the eccentrics. The first hurdle is the oddity of the 1920 that is spring loaded to default to wide-open, not to idle. I ran 2 springs right from each carb to the linkage pivot shaft so with nothing else hooked up the carbs would return to idle. I then also ran a spring in the stock location right near the firewall.
(Quick note, it’s a 4 speed so no throttle pressure to worry about). The next hurdle was the linkage ratio. When hooded up as instructed the throttle was too quick, the pedal only traveled about 1” from idle to wide open. After experimenting with different alignments of the eccentrics (more & less over-center) I ended up drilling 1 linkage hole much lower on the first arm that pins to the throttle shaft that comes through the firewall. This made the peddle need to travel much further up and down to cycle the carbs from idle to wide-open. I finally got it stock-feeling with about 2.5” of travel at the pedal. Along with doing the intake I also curved the distributor and put on a 2.25” head pipe. (On the distributor I took off the heavy spring and welded the slots, (15int/ 32total) (the pipe was from Accurate and I used an UltraFlo W/dump).
The car runs much stronger... it’s still no where near fast but it’s a noticeable improvement. (The car also has 3.55’s) There is really no cons to the drive ability other then it has a bad off-idle stumble when it’s totally cold. It goes away as soon as the temp gauge starts to move (I do have the heat flapper tied to block off the intake, so I know that isn’t helping but I’d rather keep the intake cooler once hot (if that makes sense)).

As I mentioned in the beginning people start calling their friends over at cruises with the “you gotta see this” wave.
All and all I’m happy with the $300 of love I gave the slant... it’s a shame so many people assume they are a throw-aways.

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Nice. Thank you for sharing your pics.
 
Hot intake runs way better. you can lean out your carb and still have a great idle because the fuel is kept off the intake walls. VW guys fight this all the time with their long runners, they have heat risers for theirs too.
 
For something really different here’s what I do.
I do a slow cruise into a show or a car gathering here in SoCal I’m being watched very carefully because why not. You would be watching a car every car guy knows a 1970 Dodge Challenger in a bright Go-Mango Orange. Little do they know that under the hood is a Slant6. All that’s seen is a Mopar e-body bright color, power bulge hood, TA rear spoiler, rallye wheels. I get situated and parked the guys start walking over to take a look. Lift the hood and the questions are endless.

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I saw a Vitamin C '69 Satellite with a slant in it at a show, yup.. It drew a crowd all right. Roadrunner clone.
 
Should you want to draw a crowd at any kind of show, a set of these will do the trick!

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as seen on an Aussie Charger at Carlidle

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I do have the heat flapper tied to block off the intake, so I know that isn’t helping but I’d rather keep the intake cooler once hot (if that makes sense)

That's a pretty complete (and pretty common) misunderstanding of what intake manifold heat is for. That valve setup was put there for good reasons having very little to do with how cold or hot it gets where you live. You might want to try restoring the correct function of the heat control valve. Not only might it alleviate that cold stumble, but it will also make life a lot easier for your engine in terms of reduced wear and longer engine oil life (significantly reduced gasoline-dilution of the oil). Easier for your wallet, too, in terms of improved fuel economy. And you might be shocked to find improved driveability and performance, too.

The 5041 is all kinds of nifty. The original linkage kit works well (with some cleverness, as you found) in the pre-'67 cars with the rotating-rod throttle linkage. Choke setup/hookup with the dual 1bbl intake is almost-lost knowledge; see here.
 
Hats off to HotRod777! After years of going to lots of Mopar shows, it is really great to see something different, out of ordinary, eye catching... plus I'm always a sucker for multiple carbs. Congratulations on some vision and the skills to pull it off!
 
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