Comparing Borgeson's power steering box to the mopar OEM box
FedX just delivered my Borgeson power steering conversion kit for my 69 383 4 speed Barracuda. although i have a lot of mopar parts, i purchased the entire kit including the power steering box, the power steering pump, the hoses and the steering shaft connector. it was expensive - $1247.00 - but it's a complete kit. i posted another thread about how insane headers are on a big block A-body car and have a lot of pictures on that thread showing all the stuff i've taken off the 383 so far to install a new mini-starter. i thought i'd put this steering box stuff in a separate thread as i have several pictures.
the Borgeson box and all the parts are VERY well made. all the boxes have "made in the USA" on them and the parts look like they are. the box and the pump are powder coated black. the steering shaft connector looks very heavy duty and the hoses look like any PS hoses you would buy. i spoke with one of the guys at Borgeson and he was very nice and helpful. there are two pitman arm diameters - 1 1/8" and 1 1/4". 62-72 A-body mopars take the 1 1/8" pitman arm box.
i took some measurements of the Borgeson box compared to the mopar OEM power steering box and the manual steering box. i can't guarantee these are exact measurements but they should be very close.
the Borgeson box is 7" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the fender well. the main large part of the box is 3 1/2" wide and the cylinder diameter by the pitman arm is 2 1/2" wide. the mopar OEM power steering box is also 7" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the fender well. however, the OEM box is much larger than the Borgeson box being 4 1/2" in diameter at the main large part and is 3 1/2" in diameter at the pitman arm area.
the mopar manual steering aluminum box is about the same size as the Borgeson power steering box. the OEM manual box is 6 1/4" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the K-member attachment bolt. but the Borgeson power steering box is only 5 1/4" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the K-member attachment bolt. that means that the Borgeson power steering box has a full 1" more clearance when installed between the box body and the engine than the even the manual OEM steering box. the mopar OEM power steering box is VERY large. comparing the clearance between the box and the engine of the OEM mopar power steering box to the Borgeson power steering box shows the Borgeson has somewhere between 1" to 2" more clearance between the box and the engine.
the bottom line appears to be - if you have MANUAL steering on your A-body, you can put the Borgeson POWER steering box on in exactly the same space. if you have the large, OEM mopar power steering box and you switch to the Borgeson power steering box, you'll have between 1-2" MORE space between your original OEM power steering box and the engine.
here are a bunch of pictures comparing all these boxes.
FedX just delivered my Borgeson power steering conversion kit for my 69 383 4 speed Barracuda. although i have a lot of mopar parts, i purchased the entire kit including the power steering box, the power steering pump, the hoses and the steering shaft connector. it was expensive - $1247.00 - but it's a complete kit. i posted another thread about how insane headers are on a big block A-body car and have a lot of pictures on that thread showing all the stuff i've taken off the 383 so far to install a new mini-starter. i thought i'd put this steering box stuff in a separate thread as i have several pictures.
the Borgeson box and all the parts are VERY well made. all the boxes have "made in the USA" on them and the parts look like they are. the box and the pump are powder coated black. the steering shaft connector looks very heavy duty and the hoses look like any PS hoses you would buy. i spoke with one of the guys at Borgeson and he was very nice and helpful. there are two pitman arm diameters - 1 1/8" and 1 1/4". 62-72 A-body mopars take the 1 1/8" pitman arm box.
i took some measurements of the Borgeson box compared to the mopar OEM power steering box and the manual steering box. i can't guarantee these are exact measurements but they should be very close.
the Borgeson box is 7" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the fender well. the main large part of the box is 3 1/2" wide and the cylinder diameter by the pitman arm is 2 1/2" wide. the mopar OEM power steering box is also 7" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the fender well. however, the OEM box is much larger than the Borgeson box being 4 1/2" in diameter at the main large part and is 3 1/2" in diameter at the pitman arm area.
the mopar manual steering aluminum box is about the same size as the Borgeson power steering box. the OEM manual box is 6 1/4" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the K-member attachment bolt. but the Borgeson power steering box is only 5 1/4" from the outer housing (beside the engine) to the K-member attachment bolt. that means that the Borgeson power steering box has a full 1" more clearance when installed between the box body and the engine than the even the manual OEM steering box. the mopar OEM power steering box is VERY large. comparing the clearance between the box and the engine of the OEM mopar power steering box to the Borgeson power steering box shows the Borgeson has somewhere between 1" to 2" more clearance between the box and the engine.
the bottom line appears to be - if you have MANUAL steering on your A-body, you can put the Borgeson POWER steering box on in exactly the same space. if you have the large, OEM mopar power steering box and you switch to the Borgeson power steering box, you'll have between 1-2" MORE space between your original OEM power steering box and the engine.
here are a bunch of pictures comparing all these boxes.
