I'm just trying to help him do it as accurately as possible. What's drilling a centered hole cost? Why are people so dead set against doing something as accurately as humanly possible? I saw my Rollmaster set was marked wrong before I ever touched the wheel or a piston stop. It's not difficult to find mistakes like THAT. You know yourself, because of the crappy pushrod angle, that lift on the small block is affected to the tune of around .020", so what does that do to the rest of the measurements when you are using a degree wheel? No need to tell me no offense. In the end, it's not my engine if it comes out wrong. I just cannot understand why anyone would refuse such simple suggestions to get it dead right. If all he does is simply sit the dial indicator on top of a wooden lifter, there's no way the indicator will be at the exact angle as the lifter bore. That's the whole point of degreeing a camshaft. Getting it "EXACT". It's within his means to do so. Yall have at it. And good luck.