You have to be INSANE to have long-tube headers on a big-block A-body Mopar!

Would that be the roland osborn of the old ''hemi owners association ?" If so I had dinner with him once in Tulsa ---------------

Yes, it was him. I bought the headers back around 1987 or so. I never met him, but spoke with him several times. After I bought the headers, I found out that they were not made to fit four speeds. I managed to make a whammy dine z-bar that worked. As far as I know, I might have been the first to get a four speed to work with those headers. Rod