Dirt track vent..

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No man your absolutely fine! Glad to hear your input! member 408 swinger has me seriously thinking about building a 360 like he did and give it a shot! I would love to get the controversy at the tracks going again when the chevy guys just can figure out why the old mopar kicks so much butt!! Whenever we decided to travel to another track during an off night from the local track, people already knew who we were when we showed up because there was so much talk in the dirt track world in the TN./Alabama area of how much we won! We made a LOT of money from being found legal in all the protests against us! It was a blast! One time, another mopar driver who also won quite a bit got so mad, he paid one of the chevy drivers to take us out! We were leading the race and the chevy guy slowed down and when we came back around to lap him, he ran us into the wall! The track opened one of the gates they never open and told him to get out of there before he got his butt beat off..they knew an *** whoopin was coming. They banned the chevy guy for a few weeks. We talked our driver into letting it go and he promissed to leave the guy alone when he came back, so the night he comes back, we take the lead and make several laps, then our driver slowed down and let this guy get next to him on the outside, then he slammed into the side of him and nailed the throttle and held him against the wall until they had to take his car off the track with 2 wreckers! we were so pissed at our driver for doing it, especially when we were leading the race, but he said he just couldnt let it go..lol..408 swinger, what mopar body did your guy use the 360 in?
The B-mod was your typical modified body. B-mod was supposed to be the entry level modified class. He ran stock car for a couple years. He ran a modern Monte Carlo body on your typical street stock metric chassis. He was thinking of putting a Challenger body on. But, the typical politics we've been speaking of ensued. He said **** it, sold everything off and is taking a break.
 
2012 was last year we had limited sportsman class and hole field was chevys sept one ol boy build a w2 headed magnum motor and won most races! every body swore he was cheating so he built a chevy and a ford and drove a different one each week and still won most time, no body ever would protest him track never teched nothing but carbs and every body still calls him a cheater,..lol gotta love dirt track drama! heres a pic of camaro i built for this class finished it 8/26/12 and run it 12 laps, track closed, class ened, no other track ran any thing close on rules, why i went crate model, thay can fit n run bout any wheres....still cubic dollars wins...DWB
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what about the 23* valve angle heads rule on engine option #2? Is there any small block mopar heads that are 23*?
 
im wondering if that alone would make the mopar 360 illegal to run?
Depends on how big of pricks they want to be. One of the downfalls of the Mopar is the intake runner length compared to the shivie. I have heard of some Mopars angle milling the head. Never any conclusive results from doing that.
 
They will allow the Mopar 18 degree head. And shaft rockers.

Knowing Crate Racing Usa allows a Mopar to run is encouraging. Even with the rules Mopars can run up front.

Think of my deal....Ill be running my Super Late Model with a 388" small block hoping to get 600+ hp. The top guys are running 750-800hp ... the Chevy spec motor with a Brodix head and 362 cube limit claim mid 600 hp.

And my home track is a big paper clip 1/2 mile. I dont care. I used to beat the Chevies with my 351-c.

Last place in the b main is better than anyplace in the grandstand.
 
They will allow the Mopar 18 degree head. And shaft rockers.

Knowing Crate Racing Usa allows a Mopar to run is encouraging. Even with the rules Mopars can run up front.

Think of my deal....Ill be running my Super Late Model with a 388" small block hoping to get 600+ hp. The top guys are running 750-800hp ... the Chevy spec motor with a Brodix head and 362 cube limit claim mid 600 hp.

And my home track is a big paper clip 1/2 mile. I dont care. I used to beat the Chevies with my 351-c.

Last place in the b main is better than anyplace in the grandstand.

Hello Krooser! Do you know for sure that they will for sure allow the 18* mopar head and rocker shaft? Just would hate to build this and then they say no.. I would love to do this! Something else i saw in the rules is they say you MUST use a 5" coil spring in the front...Mopars are torsion bar cars..so i dont know about that either?? Torsion bars seemed to make the car handle better..in our case anyways..
 
Sometimes too much thought is put into interpreting rules. To be competitive, you must "read between the lines". I would dare say the valve angle deal is not a problem because that is stock. The reason that rule is in there is because the aftermarket supports other than stock valve angle heads for the "Big 2".
 
The only way to know if it's accepted is to ask. But beware. I don't like to clue people in to what I'm scheming, I mean planning.
 
It was a Magnum build. For the B-Mod engine we used the stock Magnum block and crank. Put Scat rods in it. Used the GOOD EQ CH318B cylinder heads(LA intake pattern). Weiand Stealth Intake. Hughes Engines spec'd the cam, had to be hydraulic. We were going to do the ever popular 1.6 chevy steel roller rocker on the Magnum heads. I'd still like to know how this is done properly. To say that the geometry was DOGSHIT is the understatement of the century! So, we just used the factory stamped rockers. Never an issue. Sometimes the KISS method is best. Pistons were a custom dish to yeild 9.0-1 compression and still have good quench to the head. exhaust was your garden variety Schoenfeld Mod headers.
what vehicles are these heads found on? Like i said, im learning small blocks so i have no clue.
 
Engine Quest is the manufacturer. They are a replacement head for the Magnum series small blocks. There were two versions. Magnum intake bolt pattern and LA intake bolt pattern. CH318A and CH318B are the numbers respectively. Cast with better ports than stock Magnum. However, recently, the castings on these changed and now they are actually worse than the factory Magnums. Idk what that is all about and only relaying what I have read and been told by people"in the know".
 
Engine Quest is the manufacturer. They are a replacement head for the Magnum series small blocks. There were two versions. Magnum intake bolt pattern and LA intake bolt pattern. CH318A and CH318B are the numbers respectively. Cast with better ports than stock Magnum. However, recently, the castings on these changed and now they are actually worse than the factory Magnums. Idk what that is all about and only relaying what I have read and been told by people"in the know".

would using the factory magnum heads be ok?
 
I was under the impression EQ heads are no longer made?
 
Engine Quest is the manufacturer. They are a replacement head for the Magnum series small blocks. There were two versions. Magnum intake bolt pattern and LA intake bolt pattern. CH318A and CH318B are the numbers respectively. Cast with better ports than stock Magnum. However, recently, the castings on these changed and now they are actually worse than the factory Magnums. Idk what that is all about and only relaying what I have read and been told by people"in the know".

The EQ head was from New Zealand...the new junk ones are Chinese.
 
Hello Krooser! Do you know for sure that they will for sure allow the 18* mopar head and rocker shaft? Just would hate to build this and then they say no.. I would love to do this! Something else i saw in the rules is they say you MUST use a 5" coil spring in the front...Mopars are torsion bar cars..so i dont know about that either?? Torsion bars seemed to make the car handle better..in our case anyways..
Well if the rules say a Mopar is legal I guess they would be....dunno.

This kind of interests me since I could race CrateUSA stuff in Florida since I have a brother who lives there. I could go down and run late season races.

Im going to check it out.

Years ago there was a lawsuit settled when one sanctioning body mandated a spec engine...they lost. Dont remember the outfit. I do know some rules changed to accomodate the settlement....this was in the 80's
 
Well I dont see anywhere in CrateRacin rules allows anything but Cheby crate motors.
 
Well I dont see anywhere in CrateRacin rules allows anything but Cheby crate motors.

In the street stock rules i posted, it doesnt say anything about certain brand names for engine option 2. Engine option1 is the GM crate engine and option 2 just states the specs but no brand name..
 
In the street stock rules i posted, it doesnt say anything about certain brand names for engine option 2. Engine option1 is the GM crate engine and option 2 just states the specs but no brand name..
Looks to me that a W2 headed 360 would be the hot ticket. On a metric chassis.
 
Looks to me that a W2 headed 360 would be the hot ticket. On a metric chassis.
Looks to me that a w2 headed mopar that is competitive would be instantly protested for not having 23° heads.
Btw, does anybody here know what the valve angle is on small block ford heads? Google says 45° (LOL). I'm curious if fords are illegal by rule too.
 
Looks to me that a w2 headed mopar that is competitive would be instantly protested for not having 23° heads.
Btw, does anybody here know what the valve angle is on small block ford heads? Google says 45° (LOL). I'm curious if fords are illegal by rule too.
Then it says further down that cross breeding engines and bodies is totally legal..run mopar engine in GM body, etc.. so i dont know what to think. Wish i could find an email address to the crate racing usa bunch and ask.
 
Worst part is listening to the Chevy guys brag about how dominant Chevy is and has always been. They have no clue. They accuse you of whining when you mention the weight penalties the hemi got in pro stock. Or how many nascar championships where won by Chevy in the 60s. Only after they outlawed Chrysler and fords engines.
 
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