Seeking Exhaust Advice

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33IMP said:
Fenderwell headers are for gasser wannabes. That is a nice streetcar I would hate to see fenderwell headers on it. And I have a car with fenderwell headers. I have a simple muffler setup on it, but I don't care for the sound, you only hear one bank of the engine on each side of the car.
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Thanks
 
64DartV8 said:
Thank you, that is not something I've heard before. My plan was to seek out an accomplished welder who could minimize the openings.
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Your choice but there are better ways. I need to read back and see what engine you have. If it's a hot rod you might need headers. Otherwise if you have a 273-4 barrel, a nice dual system off manifolds or a HP single system will be A-OK.
 
I have Doug's on my 65 Formula S. While I agree they are a tight fit, they fit very well! My car was very solid when purchased many years ago. There's just no way I could bring myself to cut it up for headers. At the end of the day it's your car, do what you will with it. 65'
 
dibbons said:
The orginal poster wants info on fenderwell headers. Why try to change his mind instead of answering his question? Fenderwell headers were all that were available in 1975 when I installed mine. Personally, I wasn't trying to copy a gasser. If one prefers TTI and Dougs that is fantastic, but I still say you can't beat access and convenience with fenderwells, plus the bends in the pipes are not as severe which may or may not increase performance potential.
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That is absolutely why these headers were purchased, there were no other options at the time.
 
ddartdude said:
Yes. We'll said.

I have 2 HP Darts. One with fenderwell headers and one with Doug's. I have a 4-post car lift in my garage and was able to install the Doug's myself - with no help. The rest of the exhaust was on the car.

The fenderwell headers are of an unknown make and were installed back in the late 60's. Definitely a hack job. I would not recommend going this route.

Sell the Hooker's and get an Accurate Exhaust Products system. Kind of pricey but worth it. I think toolmanmike has the system on his Dart. They add just the right amount of rumble to the car.

Just my opinion.
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I like the do it myself part, I appreciate the references and I will check out the company you mentioned. I had been to a car show about 15 years ago and gotten a card from Pypes in PA, they seem to still be around, but I wanted to hear from someone who had actually done the job and what they used. Thank you.
 
toolmanmike said:
Your choice but there are better ways. I need to read back and see what engine you have. If it's a hot rod you might need headers. Otherwise if you have a 273-4 barrel, a nice dual system off manifolds or a HP single system will be A-OK.
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It's a 318-4bbl, 4 speed and the manifolds on there are Mopar high performance, but as I said, it needs exhaust work and I'm looking forward to the look and sound of headers.
 
64DartV8 said:
It's a 318-4bbl, 4 speed and the manifolds on there are Mopar high performance, but as I said, it needs exhaust work and I'm looking forward to the look and sound of headers.
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My Swinger needs exhaust as well. It still has the homemade duals on it. (original Y pipe split) I will get a nice dual kit and keep the stock manifolds ir bolt on a pair of 68 340 manifolds. Eventually I will dd the 4 barrel and intake.
 
64DartV8 said:
My question is, should I attempt to do it myself
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I installed those Hookers into a 65 V100 wagon..... in the mid 70s. I was born in 53. I borrowed my Dad's tools, and had at it, no templates, just trial and error. It turned out beautiful.
The short-block was a 340. The cam was a factory 318, as was everything from the decks up, including the 2bbl. That is my all-time favorite combo. The A904 died first. I then gave the car to my lil brother,10 years my junior, along with a good slanty, and he put it back to stock. She drove for several years after that.
I do not recall what ever happened to those headers.
If a mid 20syear-old, hi-school drop-out, like me can do it, with borrowed tools..... I suspect anyone could; HAVE AT IT!
 
You can buy exhaust kits and do it yourself.
Depending on size,2.25,2.5,it is not that hard,biggest issue will be around axle and fuel tank, that is where a shop will be of benefit.
 
64mopar said:
You can buy exhaust kits and do it yourself.
Depending on size,2.25,2.5,it is not that hard,biggest issue will be around axle and fuel tank, that is where a shop will be of benefit.
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With all the nicely made mandrel bend systems out there, a exhaust shop rarely does them cheaper and better.
 
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