Cam degreeing help me understand!

Finally got around to taking measurements with cam installed 4 degrees advanced. Learned a few things too. Initially I was using one of my roller lifters when I installed the cam straight up. Some of my measurements were inconsistent so I got a spare HFT lifter from a fellow FABO member and gutted it. I used this to take my measurements with the cam installed advanced 4 and man were my numbers jacked up. I spoke with Ken at Oregon and he said big no no and I should be measuring directly on the lifter and it needs to be a roller. Can't do that with my set-up so I went back to my original method in post 144. As you can see I am now where the cam was supposed to be ground. I would still like to advance it a couple more degrees.

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