uncle tony's garage gets called out by the roadkill guys

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Dulchick and freiburger are enetertaining in theor own way, i like wathching them work on it beat the snot out of it, work on it some more beat th
My old man told me you can learn something of value from even the stupidest SOB.
I would agree. You can learn what not to do by watching some folks...:)

back to the UT piston BS..is anyone here actually running stock flat tops in their "performance 318 build?" is there a time and place for it, and are you not pissing into the wind if you are running stock low compression 318 pistons in your performance build? Point is, most fellers are going to order the aftermarket pistons if they are actually going for performance...in a 318 La engine...
 
Ok, one more time.....

Some of you might want to read v e r y s l o w l y......

This isn't something that was/is recommended as an alternative to building a serious high performance engine. It doesn't discount proper machining of cylinder walls, or having the proper finish/ring combination. It's not something you're going to do on a full, high perf build because you won't be putting stock pistons in your build. Fo rhte most part, this is something that was recommended 40 to 60 years ago when these engines were new and people were doing curb side builds with a come-a-long strapped to a tree.

The "fact" that this makes some power that would otherwise be lost to the friction caused by "STOCK" pistons, with a STOCK offset pin, in a "STOCK" engine, has been around for several decades and was in "FACT" proven by three very famous people which was shown previously. Friction is the enemy and NOBODY would seriously dispute that, yet this topic.. whoa boy...

It's pretty much "common sense" that this would free up a few HP. Is that enough to warrant a bunch of new gaskets and time/effort to do it? I don't know, probably not to me, but one never knows. If I'm competing in something that requires only stock parts, then yeah, I'd probably do it. But, i don't so I won't.

The amount of bashing of someone for so called "Parroting" of this "FACT" is amusing and disturbing. So MANY talented and successful engine builders here....acting like butt hurt children who got an ice cream cone knocked out of their hands by UT.... and they can't let it go.... because he spoke the truth....

I'm curious how many of you would call out Vizard as a parrot when he had said it was a thing without having said he's tested it?? Heck, I'd go as far as to say if you had heard Vizard or Yunick mention it before hearing UT mention it, ya know cuz it's not a new idea...... you'd be talking about it in a positive way. SMH...

At the end of the day, we're all here for one reason, cars, and more specifically, MoPars... How productive is it to bash someone you don't like because YOU can't accept the fact they were right?

I wonder how many of you would take the flat earther side if UT "parroted" the FACT the earth is ROUND....
 
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Yeah it is what it is as they say. People like to piss moan and argue. I have seen people defend UTG with almost ridiculous enthusiasm, meanwhile throwing Freiburger and Dulcich under the bus, and vice versa. It's all entertainment. Its for views and clicks. This is my opinion, and only my opinion, if one was to be going for all out performance, it will not be garnered on the cheap. meaning you can do all the UTG recommendeds stuff and your 318 wont go any faster untill you get serious and spend some money. if you want to do 15 second 1/4 mile in a B body you can do that without too much mods on a 318. I would venture to say,lighten it up, a cam and 4 barrel and leave everything else alone, although I'd want better than stock heads myself. One of the last UTG videos was the two young guys getting "baselines" at the track, start there, then do the engine work and go back, see if it makes a difference, that is where the fun is. That's what it is all about, you prove to yourself if the tricks really work.
 
Spot on Cuda416. I don't understand the hatred for UT. He's a life long MoPar guy who has tons of experience from street racing to magazine editor/writer to nitro team member to hemi cars to /6 fan. He loves low dollar hot rodding and shares his experience aimed towards the back yard DIY guys. Not everyone has a fat wallet. There are people out there looking for any performance gains they can get which is the nature of hot rodding.
 
Spot on Cuda416. I don't understand the hatred for UT. He's a life long MoPar guy who has tons of experience from street racing to magazine editor/writer to nitro team member to hemi cars to /6 fan. He loves low dollar hot rodding and shares his experience aimed towards the back yard DIY guys. Not everyone has a fat wallet. There are people out there looking for any performance gains they can get which is the nature of hot rodding.
Basically UTG plays around with junk and doesn't show results he talks a good game. I watched Dulcich and Freiburger they work on the car, beat the **** out of it and work on it some more... two different approaches, Roadkill also starts out with wrecks and junk but then they lay rubber a couple of hundred feet down the street,and sometimes run the cars down the track. That is my observation. Night and day between the two. I will say roadkill are running real deal performance engines and that may be the difference. Uncle Tony had that control arm bushing issue has he fixed it yet? When is that Coronet going down the track next has it and I missed it? possibly...:)
 
Basically UTG plays around with junk and doesn't show results he talks a good game. I watched Dulcich and Freiburger they work on the car, beat the **** out of it and work on it some more... two different approaches, Roadkill also starts out with wrecks and junk but then they lay rubber a couple of hundred feet down the street,and sometimes run the cars down the track. That is my observation. Night and day between the two. I will say roadkill are running real deal performance engines and that may be the difference. Uncle Tony had that control arm bushing issue has he fixed it yet? When is that Coronet going down the track next has it and I missed it? possibly...:)


But is he right about the pistons? Yes, or No?

Simple question to put it all to bed... that requires a simple answer....
 
But is he right about the pistons? Yes, or No?

Simple question to put it all to bed... that requires a simple answer....
I cannot answer that . I have never tried it or measured any gain. I suppose I don't know is my final answer, I do have a 340 on the stand and I am planning on installing the pistons with the notches forward "by the book" so I guess I'm not a true believer. I am waiting for Holdener's verdict and I am not anticipating any real perceivable gain for the record. Of course I could be wrong, it really comes down to "you do what you want to your engine, ill do my thing to mine...":)
 
RoadKIll vs Uncle Tone?? I wonder what the difference in budget it, for everything.....as in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$??????? lol
One point people might miss, is back in the "day" before you walked into the local dealer store an bought a new car sporting 600 hp and UP! If you did get a few extra HP on the cheap, you were pooping in tall cotton!
 
RoadKIll vs Uncle Tone?? I wonder what the difference in budget it, for everything.....as in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$??????? lol
One point people might miss, is back in the "day" before you walked into the local dealer store an bought a new car sporting 600 hp and UP! If you did get a few extra HP on the cheap, you were pooping in tall cotton!
UT doesn't have it. If he did he would be playing around with High performance stuff. Trying to lure Dulchich and Freiburger into the mud by building a junkyard engine isnt going to happen. I dont blame the roadkill guys. There is no point to be proven and no fun to be had...Bottle rocket wont lay rubber for a few hundred feet.
 
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I cannot answer that . I have never tried it or measured any gain. I suppose I don't know is my final answer, I do have a 340 on the stand and I am planning on installing the pistons with the notches forward "by the book" so I guess I'm not a true believer. I am waiting for Holdener's verdict and I am not anticipating any real perceivable gain for the record. Of course I could be wrong, it really comes down to "you do what you want to your engine, ill do my thing to mine...":)

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I think people forget that UTG on purpose does things as a "budget builder in his driveway would do". He was offered a really nice welder, but declined because the "common Joe living week to week" doesn't have one. When asked about a lift for the shop, he said "after thinking about it, the common joe doesn't have on in his driveway so the shop won't have one".
 
RoadKIll vs Uncle Tone?? I wonder what the difference in budget it, for everything.....as in $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$??????? lol
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Recourses and budget backing the Roadkill guys is a different world than the UTG world.
 
I think people forget that UTG on purpose does things as a "budget builder in his driveway would do". He was offered a really nice welder, but declined because the "common Joe living week to week" doesn't have one. When asked about a lift for the shop, he said "after thinking about it, the common joe doesn't have on in his driveway so the shop won't have one".

I don't thing anyone "forgets", I think they've never actually watched any of that because they can't be bothered. It's way easier to come here and jump on the hog pile....
 
I cannot answer that . I have never tried it or measured any gain. I suppose I don't know is my final answer, I do have a 340 on the stand and I am planning on installing the pistons with the notches forward "by the book" so I guess I'm not a true believer. I am waiting for Holdener's verdict and I am not anticipating any real perceivable gain for the record. Of course I could be wrong, it really comes down to "you do what you want to your engine, ill do my thing to mine...":)

For the record, if Holdener comes up with a verified gain, no matter how small, I'll expect you to come and say UT was right. If he shows NO gain, I'll expect you to call out Vizard, Yunick and friends as being so called hacks like UT.... Not holding my breath
 
Bottle rocket wont lay rubber for a few hundred feet
The goal is to hook and cook. Not lay rubber. UT makes changes, breaks parts, fails or succeeds. Rinse, wash, repeat. Just like
you or me. Sure he is unconventional at times and some would use a different approach. I think what gets lost is that he works on multiple projects at a time so it is not all balled up in one episode (with 2 guys and parts/$$ access). IE bottle rocket, /6 miata, mentoring 2 guys on drag racing, 4x4 valiant....
 
Basically UTG plays around with junk and doesn't show results he talks a good game. Uncle Tony had that control arm bushing issue has he fixed it yet? When is that Coronet going down the track next has it and I missed it? possibly...:)
You are aware that he cut a 1.72 60 ft on all motor, and you are aware what kind of ET that usually produces in the 1/4 mile ???? And a 1.67 on a 100 shot ??
 
The goal is to hook and cook. Not lay rubber. .
I run into this all the time with folks that just don't know. I'll be in my Duster and they are like "Light 'em up!!!!" I just spent money on tires , and time on suspension so I do NOT spin. LOL. Anyone that knows and see's drag radials knows your goal is to hook and cook, cuz spinning aint wining... LOL. Usually that comment is followed by "is it a nova? Does it have a 350 in it?"
 
You are missing the point UTG talks too much and jerks off Roadkill gets the car running and demos it. I get it some guys like to jerk off others like pure pussy I get it...
 
Hey any of yo jaggoffs going to Carlisle...?:)

EIDT: Whoops, seems I can't read without my glasses , my bad.... I though that said "Have", you..."

No, NO ONE here has ever gone to Carlisle... oh wait.... what's the point of this now?
 
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