Long story short.....I worked for a family company year ago and was promised advancements. Five years later I asked for a significant raise sense my pay did not keep up with inflation and I was the only "hands on guy". Was told No, so I gave them my two weeks notice. First guy they hired, rob them, next guy could not do my job, so they hired another guy to help the first one. Two years later they wanted me back for the pay that I asked for. I agreed but wanted $2.00 an hour more now, because I was now making $4.00 an hour more else where (I did like the people there). Was told (management) that would not happen even though the two they were paying now were making more together than I would of. Two years later, they fired the manager and closed the office. Reason I was told, he made a couple poor decisions, including hiring practices. It's a large company and still in business, but not that office. Moral: If you have good help, keep them. One good employee can do better work than two dead beats. I have always paid my employees better than the competition, as long as they were a benefit, if not I would send them to my competition. LOL I have an old saying, "show me, don't tell me".