Ok did more reading and watched several videos on manufacturing processes. I will go look up what I found that matches weight closer to stock and roll the dice. I see no reason based on how I intend to drive car and only occasionally track no forged is needed. Cost is not the issue KB is very inexpensive and this looks like a good alternative. DODGE Speed Pro H116CP 30 Speed-Pro Hypereutectic Pistons | Summit Racing Yes it's the new casting and see why they would fail it's the builder not the piston. Piston slap makes perfect sense and I had heard that was an issue more wear at start-up. I drive 5 miles to work it would not heat up for a while and wear out quickly.