The reason it didn't take off is because Oregon Cam already grinds the cam. I think it was ONE DEGREE off or some such. They are either 169 or 179 so a better price point. Nobody's against what yall are doing and I in fact applaud it. We need all the outlets we can get. But Ken has this grind readily available and if you have a good core, then it's only 89 to grind on your core. You don't have to meet a minimum amount for that price.