Yeah, the TTI's are well out of my price range. I've fought with lots of different headers and got them in but they didn't look as good as when I started, lol. It might be my imagination but the Patriots seemed a bit heavier duty than some of the cheaper ones I've put on. Either way, I agree with you that a lot these headers are copycats and that part just sucks because they'll never improve on the design in my humble opinion.