I wouldnt laugh at the keltec folder its a neat idea. Hell i used to plink with a Hi-Point 9mm carbing thos are about the most laughable guns out there at least their pistols that riffle never jammed and went bang every time. But there limitation in my mind was the single stack mag 10 round factory or goofy looking red ball aftermarket 20. My father in law needed some sort of home defense gun so I gave that on to him last christmas after I picked up the ruger