Isn't it really about respect? Some want to go fast, some not so fast. Is one choice greater than the other? Some build their own, others do not. I don't disrespect another man's goal. If he wants 9's, so be it. If he's happy with 15's, so be it. If he can't build and pays, so be it. IF a guy rolls in the dirt and builds a 14 second car, so be it. But some have arrogance beyond their limitations... actually... beyond their universe and do nothing but mock/criticize somebody else's enjoyment of the hobby. Must be a miserable person filled with narcists'.