The end is near...

When I hear "turd" that's what I think, worthless garbage. I understand the poor cylinder filling and excessive unwanted overlap flow at lower RPM due to the valve orientation. Is what you're saying here about the LS being a better starting point something you've come to conclude yourself or are there others who agree with you from experience? Also what about the much tighter included valve angle on the G3 compared to all the other Hemi engines, would that not aid in keeping the air/fuel going into the cylinders instead of out the exhaust? Serious questions, I'm trying to learn and resources are scarce. I might email Darin Morgan and/or BES about it because it's really got me curious now.

I think it can too, but with stock dished pistons down .050" at TDC that can provide 9.5:1 compression at best? The guy with the Hemi truck didn't mention anything about changing pistons. Then even if the lower compression can be overcome you'll end up spending way more on heads and likely valvetrain which you might say is besides the point but that's still one place the G3 has an advantage. If you disagree please explain how I'm wrong don't just shoot a red X at me.


I couldn’t care less who agrees with me. The LS is a better starting point because of what it is. You learn that from 40 plus years of building all this junk. They are all junk when you look at it honestly.

We are talking about trying to make production manufactured junk run and make power that the factory NEVER intended. You have to be honest. It is what it is.

That means you have to sort out the junk and use the least junk to start with.

FWIW, I wouldn’t build an LS. A conventional SBC with obsolete 18 degree heads will kick the shot out of an LS all day long. I can argue that with the right 23 degree heads you can outrun an LS.

All the teeny boppers and bubble gummers think that new is better and old is ****. Tat couldn’t be further from the truth.

One more time. Chrysler went for the marketing over NA performance with the Hemi. Simple as that. Of course, I can argue that Chrysler knew it was going to boost the Hemi and that was part of it. And yet and still the vast majority of these Hemi engines went in NA vehicles.