Auto-X / Roadrace rear suspension 1969 Valiant
This is the non-staggered.
You can see that the staggered version has a crossmember that would probably be welded to the rear bulkhead. The non-staggered version could have those pockets welded up in the wheel well, I suppose. This is a full mini-tubbed car though so the staggered makes more sense.
One thing to note about the DSE kit is that the brackets are supposed to be slipped over an axle tube that doesn't have a flange. To put them on a tube with a flange installed you would have to cut the bracket . Not a big deal.
I have all the parts priced out for the complete composite leaf spring setup which includes the Hyperco springs, new u-bolts, Fox adj. shocks, sliders, AFCO leaf spring plates, and Clavert HD spring perches. It's in the neighborhood of $1600 w/ free shipping from Summit.
The DSE staggered X-Gen Quadralink is the same price, however, it doesn't come with coilovers so that's at least another $500 to $800 for a pair of double-adjustable coilovers so we'll say about $2400.
The Control Freak suspension is $2199. The Control Freak comes with Viking double adjustables. The link suspensions likely don't have free shipping so add a coupe more bills to each. I like the design of both link suspensions.
I just thought I would identify the costs involved with these options. I am interested in finding the right suspension so identifying cost is just what it is. I am more interested identifying the right suspension. The leaf suspension loses out over the 4-links in my opinion. I don't really care about the NVH (so much) so the Control Freak's heim joints isn't a deal killer in a race car. The question is should I be looking at the length of the links? Angle of the links? They are different between CF and DSE.
The upper and lower bars supposed to intersect at the anti-squat line for a neutral set up. I don't see how either has a way to adjust the instant center like multiple bolt holes as in drag race 4-links. Am I relying on the kit manufacturer to build the IC pont into the setup? If so the Control Freak has a 67-76 A-body specific kit so I hope they would have figured where the IC will be on the car in relation to the anti-squat line. But also, they should be keeping in mind that the A-bodies had different wheel bases. Mine is 108" so it would be different than a Dart. The DSE kit is universal so I would have the liberty of setting the IC when installing it.
I talked to Peter the other day. He mentioned the staggered set up.
This is the non-staggered.
You can see that the staggered version has a crossmember that would probably be welded to the rear bulkhead. The non-staggered version could have those pockets welded up in the wheel well, I suppose. This is a full mini-tubbed car though so the staggered makes more sense.
One thing to note about the DSE kit is that the brackets are supposed to be slipped over an axle tube that doesn't have a flange. To put them on a tube with a flange installed you would have to cut the bracket . Not a big deal.
I have all the parts priced out for the complete composite leaf spring setup which includes the Hyperco springs, new u-bolts, Fox adj. shocks, sliders, AFCO leaf spring plates, and Clavert HD spring perches. It's in the neighborhood of $1600 w/ free shipping from Summit.
The DSE staggered X-Gen Quadralink is the same price, however, it doesn't come with coilovers so that's at least another $500 to $800 for a pair of double-adjustable coilovers so we'll say about $2400.
The Control Freak suspension is $2199. The Control Freak comes with Viking double adjustables. The link suspensions likely don't have free shipping so add a coupe more bills to each. I like the design of both link suspensions.
I just thought I would identify the costs involved with these options. I am interested in finding the right suspension so identifying cost is just what it is. I am more interested identifying the right suspension. The leaf suspension loses out over the 4-links in my opinion. I don't really care about the NVH (so much) so the Control Freak's heim joints isn't a deal killer in a race car. The question is should I be looking at the length of the links? Angle of the links? They are different between CF and DSE.
The upper and lower bars supposed to intersect at the anti-squat line for a neutral set up. I don't see how either has a way to adjust the instant center like multiple bolt holes as in drag race 4-links. Am I relying on the kit manufacturer to build the IC pont into the setup? If so the Control Freak has a 67-76 A-body specific kit so I hope they would have figured where the IC will be on the car in relation to the anti-squat line. But also, they should be keeping in mind that the A-bodies had different wheel bases. Mine is 108" so it would be different than a Dart. The DSE kit is universal so I would have the liberty of setting the IC when installing it.