Actually I read a thread on a public forum, it started out about a gentleman that was a solid guy that had some dirt on some people that was riding a book and then magically he killed himself his wife and his two children. Well part of that thread turned into a subthread was almost 3,000 comments.I read every damn one of them. I had to do with empty camps, and people applying for welding jobs. I ain't going to go any further here