But they don't feel like that AT ALL if you get the right one. You can get a converter that'll flash to 5K and beyond but will idle around the parking lot at 900 RPM. I'm tellin you, it's nothing like it was 30 plus years ago. Unless you've ridden in one that has a converter like we're discussing here, I promise you that you have no idea. I didn't buy it either, until I rode in a friend's 78 big block Malibu. It drives around like stock but will scrape the back bumper when lanuched.