They do seem to be getting a better handle on the effectiveness of the LEDs. I had a 500W halogen that was put in the recycle bin by our electrician, an outdoor area fixture, glass cover, swivel mount, the whole bit. It still worked so I modified it to be used as a drop light. One of it's main functions was keeping one of the air over electric solenoids on the plant from freezing on those cold winter nights we get :lol: