Is More Flow Better, Is The Smallest Intake Port That Flows The Most The Best

Aussie Charger said
The vector of torque can hardly be "meaningless" when that's exactly what torque is – a rotational force (that acts at 90 degrees to the centre, just like the opposite of centrifugal force).

I also fail to see how it is "meaningless" when every single Power equation is based on it. And you're not going anywhere until you overcome that static resistance! Not just once, but over and over again as you try to increase the velocity of the car (ie; accelerate).

I have used the example of electric engines (yes, even though we are talking about combustion engines for the most part) because they are a prime example of what an almost perfectly flat toque curve can do.

We have one particular person here claiming that you can have all the torque in the world, but if you put the car in top gear and let her rip, nothing will happen. That is blatantly wrong and shows a very narrow mindset that can't come to grips with the fact that any amount of torque can overcome any amount of static resistance and that gearing has NOTHING to do with it.

Gearing simply multiplies what you already have. Or not. In the case of a peaky race (combustion) engine, you don't have much torque low down, so you have to multiply it at lower rpm to overcome static resistance (and then rolling resistance) just to get the engine to a point at which it makes MORE TORQUE.

Answer me this, @Phreakish, what accelerates faster: Higher peak horsepower, or higher average torque under the curve?

A 500HP electric engine can beat a 550hp petrol engine every day of the week if it has more toque under the curve (which it almost always will) because you guys seem to have forgotten one thing:

A= M/F

This static equation, when applied dynamically, refers to EVERY SINGLE ROTATION that torque is being applied to. It is not just at 8000RPM or whatever. it is at 1000rpm, 2000rpm, 3000rpm, 4000rpm etc and every thing in-between.

Average torque under the curve beats peak power.

It's called bracket racing, mate. And I don't lose too many. I might not race as often as some, but my car holds its own and I have just as much fun as you dong it.

What your not getting once you apply enough torque to move an object like a car work is also taking place, the amount of work able to be done is all we care about which hp is able describe to us. Torque on a dyno graph has less importance because it can't express the amount of work to be done, in that sense it doesn't matter if a dyno just spit out a hp curve that's all the info we need. So torque is important just not necessarily the amount of it. A 500 hp engine is more powerful the a 250 hp engine but engines with 500 tq vs 250 tq we have no idea which is more powerful, You only want focus and credit one part of the process, When saying HP is King your accounting for both tq and time (rpm).

And torque is per revolution average if it takes more revolutions we have to be talking over time which is power, a dyno don't sit at every rpm for a minute to measure how much torque is being made. The tq measure at a certain rpm would be same in a split second or years at that rpm.