If we are talking stock, then race prepped and modded is out of the conversation. Not everyone is racing. Some here are restoring these cars to day 2 condition or even day 1. Nicks garage was mentioned because he has a dyno and puts the results out on the web. I wish I had a dyno I don't. my garage is a small detached "Normal garage" that is on an average normal property not a professional auto shop. Poor me LOL!