This is the tool. and looking at i think i was pushing the clip the wrong way making it hold on better :) lesson learned
P.S. yup.. i was pushing the clip towards the handle.. supposed to push away.. thus the fighting and self stabbing :)
ok.. done making a mess here this morning.. sorry
Never did that square type. Does the clip just stay in the handle? Done many Jesus clips. Have a couple of the tools like the opposite end of that other tool pictured. Amazing how far you can launch them suckers. LOL