Same old FABO

The problem is, some of those threads ARE "for sale" ads, but if they are not, and get stuffed into "for sale," THEN WE CANNOT DISCUSS THE ITEM as originally intended by the OP!!!!
Sometimes. Like Mr. sinister said, he asked a general question and I’m sure the local NAZI MOD who overzealous enforcement of the rules due to the slightest infraction he thinks he see’s gets your thread/post deleted. In my case it also gets a minimum of a rude PM if not a nasty PM.

Last time he (The for sale/want ad section NAZI MOD) banned me with a PM ranting about his personal health problems and pills he takes just to function. I wasn’t even interacting with him and it wasn’t in any of the ad sections.

What you have to do is write a disclaimer so you don’t get spanked.
I didn't state that they were the same thing. One often accompanies the other though.
I have seen college educated idiots, that is for certain.
And there’s a lot of them.