Solar Panels, for CIVIL discussion

So you have zero personal experience with solar yet you are sure that my grid does not more than pay for itself? That's just crazy. Maybe it isn't for you I have no idea of what your situation is and I don't pretend to have a crystal ball. But I do know that where it's viable it is definitely worth the investment from a financial stand point, tax credits or not.

As for the environmental issues again it depends on your area. If I'm getting my elect from an old coal plant then my panels look a lot more environmentally friendly than if I was getting it from a nuclear power station. The whole thing is a cost analysis and very seldom will 2 people from different areas have the same results. Even the amount of power consumed comes into play. The more you are a consumer of energy the more it pays as there is a reduced rate for selling it back to the company when they sold it to your neighbor full price. Grid maintenance costs taken into account, seems fair.

On top of that they recycle old panels in several ways. One company is making green houses from old panels. Yes there are parts that will need to be dealt with but you can recycle a large part this way while growing plants.

OK, this then I’m done.

I said you have a subsidy that made your system more economically feasable. I couldn’t care less what YOU do, except I’m sick of subsidizing all this ****. Any and ALL subsidies should end tomorrow and that’s because today has passed.

I did the math. The **** doesn’t make sense for EVEN if I took a subsidy which I won’t. I don’t take handouts.

If the junk was so good, it wouldn’t need subsidies to make it happen would it?

As for recycling all all that **** you hype as enviromentally sound you miss the big picture.

You want to feel good about what you do and virtue signal how wonderful it is because SOME of it gets recycled.

Never mind the environmental DISASTER that happens to make all the junk that goes into solar. Or wind. Or any of the other crap put forth as feasible replacements for oil. You can parse it any way you want, but it’s a F ‘ing criminal disaster. But you go on and tell us how great it is.

Phreakish laid it out pretty clearly, and rather than read and consider what he posted, you want to keep going. You can posture all you want but it won’t change the facts.

Just an FYI, I started researching solar (and other) so called eco friendly sources of power in 1981. The technology has moved forward SOME, but it’s just not a viable option for the reasons many have posted.

Somewhere at home I have a paper I found and copied when I was in college. It was a PhD in several fields. And in that paper he absolutely proved how big a fallacy all these “alternatives” really are.

Between oil, hydroelectric and nuclear this country could have energy costs drop my a huge number.