I'm not calling them a poser cam, i'm just saying that all i ever see are videos like that which are "Ohhh listen how cool it is at idle" not... i changed from X cam to this and gained 2 tenths or actual results, although in a big block there are dyno numbers that are decent. I am just curious if a cam with a less annoying idle would do just as well and be more drivable. I have had over-cammed cars and i ended up hating every one of them :)