Well, now that you ask, Mike had a nice set of 273 valve covers that he donated to one of our fund raiser auction, and I paid a good price for them, it was a donation to a good cause. And in the same aution, there was a gift cert. for a certain Powder coater, which was donated. I paid over the value of the Cert, it was a donation for a good cause. Well, off they went to get powder coated, AND I will say now, the job is excellent, BUT I thought and think the cost to do that was over what it should have been. Several hundred over the gift cert. NOW for the record, This person does Excellent work. Second to none. AND they are real good people. They can charge what they think there art is worth. OK with all that.....