UTG wins!

As evidenced by some of the responses here, I'd say dumb is a accurate description of a few members, lol
It's worse on YT people unconditionally defend the guy, Ill never know why. He must represent them and that's scary, a bunch of limited knowledge guys wrenching on and hacking up and driving unsafe junk on public roads. But Ill stop now I dont wanna get someone so mad they start crying...just for calling it like I see it.:)