What happens with the hate is the guys who are putting out info and calling out Tony as being incorrect or making up lies get ganged up on then leave. I've seen it. that leaves Tony to keep on inferring he's an expert to the uninformed...the way I see it is YT should be a source of credible information ,does it have to be? no... I also believe in comedic entertainment which is what Tony really is. What is happening is there are alot like him starting channels trying to be like him. Tony has a real bad vindictive side...if you watch him hell talk **** and throw people under the bus,he also sends his troll after other peoples channels...it is because YT is his livelihood. Its a cutthroat business to him and his wife. The people who are called haters arent actually the ones hating...tey just dont want to be trolled because they arent UTG fans. It may sound like a bit much but, trust me thats whats going on with him he's not the nice car guy people think he is. He's not someone you'd see at Carlisle sitting behind his car and you can bullshit with...he's out for himself and to make a buck. But enough about that guy the best thing is to walk away and let the misinformed go on being misinformed...:) Tony's audience isn't using anything he says to build a car, they don't build cars...this is why he's successful. He's actually selling a persona. i wont type more because Ive said enough already but, if anyone is interested and want to see what Lunar had to say read the comments section on this YT short. Lunar is a good young man and he kept quiet for a while but read his reply where someone asks "what happened can you talk about it?"..it isnt hate all you have to do is pay attention ...I watched Tony build up his channel over COVID and I watched the people he threw under the bus and the incompetence he displays wrenching on cars. He doesn't deserve the credit he gets from people who just don't know, and he damned sure doensn't like it when folks like me call it out.