If they are the same as a hydraulic, then what's to stop it from trying to pump up? Is removing the disc valve all it takes? That's what I've been getting at. That's why I don't think the idea to shim them solid is a good one. If the lifter continues to try to pump up, then surely sooner or later it will pop the wire clip out and come apart. The pump up part of the hydraulic lifter must be defeated.