Turd hearders

I love plumbers. I really do. I firmly believe their profession has saved more death and suffering than antibiotics.
You guys and your hot showers make life worth living.

But do you have to destroy floor joists on every installation.

I mean this one is spanning 22 feet with rough cut 2x8's. It's a little suspect already.

I still love you guys though. Can't wait for a hot shower.