well, to me, classic cars start with factory carburetors.... so around the mid 80's and down.... although, I may make an acceptation for the Fox bodies, Grand Nationals, Daytonas, and I-roc Z28's from the same era.... But that's just me .... lol Oh, I have a 2001 Ram that's my daily with 321k on it, but it's not a classic to me... just a worn out rusty truck :D