DOES THE HDK SUSPENSION K-MEMBER HANDLE BETTER THAN A T-BAR SUSPENSION?
What I think you are missing is on OEM or aftermarket, there are sooooo many variables that one size (setting) will NEVER fit all. HDK offers two spindle heights and 3 different shock settings. Add that to not everybody has the same size front tire or preference in ride height. there could be a 4-5" difference in ride height alone.
And don't forget to add several other factors like different applications, not to mention the skill, comprehension and knowledge level that changes with every individual.
Certainly every car is going to be different and the final setup is going to have significant differences. And no, not every end user has the same goal, skill or knowledge. Nope, not missing there is a huge spread of options and setups.
That’s why I suggested fixing the variables. If someone is going to claim better suspension geometry and handling, then they should be able to find a common “handling” setup for a TB suspension, setup their suspension to match and remove as many variables as possible and then show the comparison results.
Not so they can say every car with this suspension will have these results, but so they can show actual differences. Comparable numbers, not just sales taglines.
Otherwise the claim is made up.
Please don't be too critical.
I’m not being critical of you, don’t take this as something really pointed at you in any way. I know you are the manufacturer of this kit, but I understand that you didn’t get into this market for better geometry or handling nor do you claim that. But others do claim better geometry and handling and I am just pointing out that it wouldn’t be hard for them to back up their claims.
Every one of us began because of our personal needs, the fact that others wanted us to build them a similar platform (regardless of the perfect roll center) has been a plus to the Mopar hobby.
Absolutely, I agree it is a plus. Not suggesting that everyone should care about their roll center.
What does annoy me though is a company (again not you) that makes a claim about better handling without any support. I am annoyed by it because most of those same guys you mention that can’t even get an alignment or setup the shocks run around telling everyone how much better the car handles because the company they bought it from said so. And most of those guys never even drove the car stock let alone with a suspension that wasn’t worn out. And then even the knowledgeable guys start parroting this claim. All without anything more than “the website claims better handling”.
I will add though, that if Joe hadn’t put the time and effort to further refine your kit I don’t think he would have made an improvement to the handling of his car. I am sure it would have worked fine, it certainly will make the G3 swap easier. But at its initial baseline install I am of the opinion that handling was probably worse.
And I think that his current setup probably isn’t significantly better than his old one with a set of 1.12 TB’s and a set of adjustable shocks. But just my gut feel.
What I am jealous of though is the sealed bearing and hub with at least the potential of an integrated wheel speed tone ring. :D
