Oh that works for me, my sons would agree because we have talked about a dirt road course before, I told them I could compete against you two men if we had such a track, Creed said yes maybe, if we all had a good beer buzz going at the time :rofl: yep, we called it ditch road racing back in the 70es.. they have experienced me doing shi.. like that when they was 13 and 15 .. yep, I would live to see that.