TTI Shorty Headers VS Doug's Long tube headers??

Super-Cuda said

Here's a shot from the rear of my car.

I can't speak about any other setup but I did not need a modified Z-Bar for the A-833 4-Speed I am using. Being totally transparent though , I am using an AlterKation front K Member . When I ordered the 4-speed conversion kit from Brewers, I did not mention it so I do not think it made any difference. Also, engine location is the same .

No trimming of the bellhousing needed.

I can easily install a short oil filter without 90 degree adapter. (again, maybe because of the RMS System)

My car has the USCT Frame connectors and you cannot see the exhaust system as its hidden behind them.

I'm thinking this is more than a 3/8 difference as I have never scraped the underside components of the car , ever since mods were done. The long tube headers I used (Hedman) were notorious for hitting angled driveways etc..

To be accurate, I am using a Magnum engine and had a 340 in it previously.

Not trying to blow wind up your skirt but I realize you know way more about suspensions than I do so maybe there's a reason for this I don't know about.



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Just to show how low I actually got my car, here it is parked next to my Brother's 2007 Mustang Shelby GT 500.



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Hedman’s go under the steering link, Doug’s do not, so Doug’s are already much higher than Hedman’s. I literally measured my car before and after with the Doug’s compared to the TTI shorties, the difference was less than 3/8”. Ground clearance was my main reason for installing the TTI’s shorties and they’re simply not worth it for that reason alone. And I run my car quite low, a good 2” lower than stock.

As for the rest of it, you can look at the pictures in my thread. The TTI head pipes wouldn’t even bolt on without trimming the stock 833 bellhousing I had, and it had already been trimmed slightly for the Doug’s.

The shorty filter was also a no go with the Canton oil plate. It likely would have cleared with a stock plate, but your header is going to be right up against the oil filter unless it’s a VERY short filter, the PS2004 I run is already substantially shorter than most LA filters.

My understanding was the TTI shorties also needed the modified Z bar like both the TTI long tubes and the Doug’s. I might be wrong about that, I already had the modified Z for my Doug’s and it would have cleared fine.

The fit and finish on the TTI’s was also lower quality than the Doug’s, which I covered in my thread. Given the price of the TTI shorties with the required head pipes, they’re just not worth it vs the long tubes IMHO, since they will also be a performance loss compared to the long tubes.