Cheap *** headers at it again!!

dan dan minivan man over here acting as if tti's and doug's just go on ahead and jump right into the engine bay and slide right on in when you open the box like spending 1K on headers is some kinda magic cheat code.

are expensive headers easier to install than most, yes. but they too are not without their challenges. and guess what: plug access is the same pain in the dick, and distance to master cylinder is the same too close for comfort, and you can smoke out plug wires with stock manifolds too.

some bumped up primaries ain't gonna make a gnat's *** of difference for 99.9% of the action dudes installing them round here use them for. unless the collector is damn near pinched off you'd be hard pressed to see any difference in most street applications.

over here worried to death about headers when there's not even a car to put them on. cart, horse, yadda yadda yadda.
FYI, I'm not a bit worried about putting headers on a car, I was simply making a comment nothing more. I'm willing to bet that when the time comes that I'll be able to install a set of headers in less time than you for the simple reason that I took the time to do a little research and talked to people who have installed headers. I've heard of guys using different motor mounts and custom made high pressure power steering hoses in order to gain a little extra clearance. I'm sure that your aware of this but you can also go with electric steering conversion and eliminate the clearance issue with the hydraulic system. I may not have the experience that you have but I'm not a dummy either. I probably mentioned a few things about headers that you had no idea of. Oh, my name is not minivan man.