O2 Sensor on a Carb Engine Question
I totally get where AJ is coming from, and have to agree with him, even though or maybe because I run an afr full time.
I can also totally relate to the fat Wife analogy unfortunately. :D
I sometimes watch a channel called Fort9 about motorcycles.
He had a whole table of riding accessories, from cameras, intercom’s, phone mounts and such.
He wiped it all off on the floor and said “You don’t need any of this ****, just go have fun and don’t ruin your ride screwing with accessories”
I really liked and agreed with that statement.
Same with cars, but I think knowing what you are doing when the car needs something is a big part of enjoying it.
Some of us can tune an engine darn near perfect without the afr, just by ear, feel and plug readings.
Some can’t, or are not confident, or knowledgeable enough to do that.
The fun comes from going for a good blast in a car you can trust and fix anywhere and any time it’s needed with nothing more than your ear and experience.
Point here is that for an afr to do a person one bit of good you need to know what it’s telling you and why.
Seems to me that once that is known, you are already past needing it.
It’s just there for the curiosity of it at that point.
Thoughts?
As a matter of fact it’s overcast here now with a cool breeze and not 100 degrees like they said, and I think I’m going to take a rip up the mountain into pine trees and national forest. :D
It’s perfect all windows down with a toke and good rock and roll driving weather.
And I’m leaving all my cameras and wireles microphones at home.
A nice gentle buzz, the music and the Flowmaster 40’s baby.
Later
I get what you are saying TB. And what AJ is saying, because as you both know (I don’t say that to insult your intelligence or AJ’s but as a fact that I know you both know what I’m about to say so it’s old hat to you guys) to use an AFR meter and understand what data it’s giving takes time to learn.
I get some guys don’t really care to learn. I’m ok with that until they start complaining their carb doesn’t run right. Then either pay someone to fix it that you trust or, learn yourself.
I always see on the side of FABO members are not stupid and that most of them want to learn to tune better. Or drive better. Or shift better.
I know my driving skills are in the crapper right now from lack of practice. I will soon be hitting it again and I’ll have to teach my dumb self how to drive again.
That’s kinda the same thing.
I get why AJ (and you) don’t want to bother with one, and that’s ok. Trust me when I say I’ll probably never do EFI not because I can’t do it and tune it, but because I absolutely HATE all that wiring and ****. Just hate it.
Am I actively looking at an MSD Digital 7 box so I can start learning individual cylinder timing and such. I know there is power in individual cylinder timing.
Would I expect AJ to do it? Nope. And probably 99% of the people doing this hobby wouldn’t even be close to needing or wanting an ignition like that.
But for the 1% (I shouldn’t be talking in “absolutes” because some guys get offended…not on this forum but others) we want to keep learning.
And then the customer ends up with a better end product because I learned how and what to do.
That’s where I come from.
Plus, I know how much time AJ spends massaging his stuff. He gets it dialed in. He isn’t getting paid to tune his stuff so any extra time it takes him to tune it doesn’t matter.
I like to keep my tuning time as little as possible.