Sucess!!:thankyou:.... 36 inch prybar (not made by a division of ACME, or operated by a Coyote...) between the drum and the back of the wheel and a hammer.... still had to really work it and rotate it 1/4 turns prying it.... broke a wheel stud off in the process apparently from the terrible vibration when she finally let go.... now, when I remove the drum is that integral with the wheel bearings, or sandwiched between the wheel and a hub?