Manifold Vacuum Advance what am I not getting?

Is that 1980 rpm? Is that where it idles?

I wish we would have discussed what an actual “good” idle is.

Good doesn’t always mean smooth.

Just cranking timing in at idle until the engine idles smooth is a fools errand. You will go down the wrong hole every time.

I know it’s subjective but if you can get the engine to idle consistently UNDER curb idle that’s ALL the initial you need.

Bet your *** the book readers will come in and call bullshit but rise above their ignorance and don’t jam a bunch of timing in it to get some fantasy idle.

I have said and I still say a performance engine with even reasonable .904 lobes the idle speed should be no lower than 900 rpm. In gear if you use a converter. I like 950-1000 just to keep oil on the cam lobes at idle.

That’s not to say what I tune won’t idle lower than that, because they will. It’s hard on parts with low idle speeds.

The cams you can buy today have lobes faster than anything just a couple of decades ago.

At any rate, a smooth idle isn’t the best idle.

If that timing light is correct and the damper hasn’t moved GET IT BACK TO 20-22 initial NOW. And tune it from there.

You’ll kill it like that.
You’re saying do not tune for Max vacuum? I can certainly take the initial down to 24° but my vacuum will be at 10Hg. The problem with the idle speed is that there’s a significant drop when it goes into gear.