Why do 68 & 69 dart iginition switches have different # ground plug ins?

-

D.Dog

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2011
Messages
54
Reaction score
7
Location
Shepherd Mi.
I have two ignition switches. I want to use my 68 because I have a really nice main harness. The 68 has 6 plugs but only has 5:? Could someone clarify. See photo thanks!

DSCF0650  ignition switch 5x4.jpg
 
I see lugs on the 1969. @4spdragtop is working on figuring out the differences between the in-dash switches. This should get his attention.
 
Last edited:
A multimeter would clear this up in about one minute. IF it's a ground---no switch needs a ground. It might be?? did they have a "key light" option? A quick look at the 68 service manual (Valiant) shows one pin NOT USED

s8switch.jpg
 
A multimeter would clear this up in about one minute. IF it's a ground---no switch needs a ground. It might be?? did they have a "key light" option? A quick look at the 68 service manual (Valiant) shows one pin NOT USED

View attachment 1715392557
Here's the connections from the '69 Dodge FSM.
Accessory and Starter connections have been moved.
upload_2019-9-11_9-12-3.png
 
Thanks @Mattax , physically they are different and wont fit, properly anyway. Bezels are different as well.
Del mentioned the light and I know for a fact 68 had that option as I had one before, so electrically this MAY be the difference. Not sure if 69 had this or not.
Go to mymopar.com and download FSM for free, these are a must.
I see lugs on the 1969. @4spdragtop is working on figuring out the differences between the in-dash switches. This should get his attention.

A multimeter would clear this up in about one minute. IF it's a ground---no switch needs a ground. It might be?? did they have a "key light" option? A quick look at the 68 service manual (Valiant) shows one pin NOT USED

View attachment 1715392557
 
Thanks @Mattax , physically they are different and wont fit, properly anyway. Bezels are different as well.
Del mentioned the light and I know for a fact 68 had that option as I had one before, so electrically this MAY be the difference. Not sure if 69 had this or not.
Go to mymopar.com and download FSM for free, these are a must.
Did you get anywhere figuring out whether '67 switch was different than '68? and whether there was a superceded p/n number?
 
Funny, I was at dealership yesterday and parts guy punched in both 67 and 68 numbers and yes to superceded numbers. BUT parts guy said 68 superceded back to 67 number?? WTH??
Did you get anywhere figuring out whether '67 switch was different than '68? and whether there was a superceded p/n number?
 
so what do I go with?
Connecting the wires according to the back of the switch or what the 1968 manual says?
All five wires have the same color coating
The manual has the ign2, the yellow “ST” wire and the black “ACC”
Going to totally different terminals
Y would the manual show different wire positions on the ‘68 ign switch? Fusible link is intact
No power to relay at all
Wife says back away from the car for awhile
I’m way too irritable over this issue

0891B0E1-5AFA-487B-9628-3B56B8F59EBD.png


C3AFD512-D5B1-4740-906C-1C4BCF46629B.jpeg
 
I guess you didn't read what I posted in the other thread. WHERE did you get this diagram? I posted one out of a 68 Plymouth manual, the Barracuda inst panel, that I'd downloaded from MyMopar

There is no switch that needs a ground, unless it is some sort of lighting, or anti theft. GM used to ground the solenoid circuit on shutoff to prevent jumpering the solenoid

This

68IGN.jpg
 
-
Back
Top